No your not,, what we do is take away the things they love,, like TV, PS2, Nintendo Wii, XBox, DVD Player due to you being able to play music too, Strerio's,, the list goes on,, that works,, trust me,,
Other thing i do, now they are older is,, they start off with £5 each everytime they are bad and depending on how bad money gets taken and they cant earn it back,, harsh but effective,,
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